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Taurean · Jul 17, 2009, 08:06 PM // 20:06

Ppl say BHA is so good in HM, but how can one arrow be good against a mob of six?

_Nihilist_ · Jul 17, 2009, 08:24 PM // 20:24

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Originally Posted by Taurean

Ppl say BHA is so good in HM, but how can one arrow be good against a mob of six?

Either use BHA to shutdown and spike the most dangerous caster, or have someone carry Epidemic.

Lishy · Jul 17, 2009, 08:36 PM // 20:36

Rangers have barrage, which is insane when paired with a ritualist who casts a Channeling 14 Splinter Weapon on you. You can carry Sy to help with the spamming

BHA can also be used to severely shut down enemy monks or caster bosses

Volley is a great alternative to Barrage, often paired with bha and a ritualist secondary, using channeling 10 splinter weapon on yourself

Triple Shot is an amazing, armor ignoring, life stealing spike when paired with Nightmare weapon

Incendiary Arrow is also a great alternative to Barrage, and has more range, can be paired with preparations for some really great insanity, and it synergizes well with a fragility mesmer.

Most importantly, you have DShot which every ranger should use and interrupt with!

But I'm no pro ranger. That's just what I know.

Taurean · Jul 17, 2009, 08:51 PM // 20:51

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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

Either use BHA to shutdown and spike the most dangerous caster, or have someone carry Epidemic.

Right, that makes sense.

My idea of a good Ranger is a spiker. The faster you can kill an enemy, then the faster that enemy can no longer deal any damage. If a team was consisting of only spike Rangers, that means eight fast kills - Instant mob death.

Pugs Not Drugs · Jul 17, 2009, 10:22 PM // 22:22

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Originally Posted by Taurean

Ppl say BHA is so good in HM, but how can one arrow be good against a mob of six?

Theres six of them.
Theres eight of you.
You can shut down 1/6 of the opposing team and do alittle damage.
You are only 1/8 of your team.
1/6>1/8

Sierraa · Jul 17, 2009, 10:39 PM // 22:39

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Originally Posted by Tyrael_Eveningsong

Ummmm....

Interrupting is not for PvE? Lies.

I'm bad at pve and rangers sorry

I forgot about BHA.

Introverted Dimensions · Jul 17, 2009, 11:12 PM // 23:12

Ranger's aren't useless in HM. The majority of the people that believe that are just ignorant and clueless when it comes to the class.

I've VQ'd Elona, Done my protector/guardian titles and nearly done with vqing Tyria at the moment. Breezed through the majority of it.

_Nihilist_ · Jul 18, 2009, 01:07 AM // 01:07

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Originally Posted by Taurean

My idea of a good Ranger is a spiker. The faster you can kill an enemy, then the faster that enemy can no longer deal any damage. If a team was consisting of only spike Rangers, that means eight fast kills - Instant mob death.

While this works in theory, a single well-placed/well-timed Prot or Heal can mitigate spikes. Ideally, the Daze should go on the highest-priority caster: Monks, High-Damage Casters, Disruptive/Spammy Casters.

If a Monk can't Heal or Prot, the enemy team soon wipes. If a High-Damage Caster can't Nuke or Spike, your Monks don't have to waste energy. If a Disruptive/Spammy Caster can't glitch your team, your team should be mowing things down in short order.

WhiteAsIce · Jul 18, 2009, 01:52 AM // 01:52

Because of the increased armor of foes in HM, Barrage isn't used so much for its damage, but for what it can be used for, namely for Splinter Weapon (ignores armor) and "Save Yourselves!" (easy to charge the adrenaline).

BHA+Epidemic, as most people have mentioned. In my experience, it's hard to time because for some reason I'm the only person in the entire GW universe that foes like to kite against, so Epidemic almost never works for me. But for the few times that it does, there goes the neighborhood.

Some people may mention a Glass Arrows Triple Shot build... I tried that, and I don't like that Triple and Double Shot have long recharge times. That build is more for hit-and-run.

For a decent support Ranger, go R/W for Infuriating Heat with Volley. One Volley is able to charge "Save Yourselves!" if all hits connect. Be careful using this in areas with many Warrior foes.

jake.fl.1987 · Jul 18, 2009, 04:19 AM // 04:19

Well lets take it from a ranger who has Master of the north, all skill caps (no tomes), guardian and all vanquishers. Also this was without sab or discord.

Rangers are over powered for pve. People who say they are useless do not know what they are talking about. Rangers can solo farm just as well as other classes.
http://www.youtube.com/view_play_lis...r+solo+farming

Also rangers can do condition spamming, and using something like incindary arrows with poison. And yes it is effective in pve. It puts a lot of pressure on the enemy pve monks.

Rangers are also awesome with interupts and bha. This is a wonderful way to shut down casters. If you shut down the healer the mob is dead in no time. Hell you can wipe the entire mob and not kill the hero first simply because he cant get a heal. Though this tactic isnt recomended you can if you want.

Rangers can also act as the tank in your group. Tank you say? Yes! Scythe rangers do awesome damage. And since its a sycthe it damages multiple foes. The 70 AL +30 AL vs Elemental, makes rangers formidable tanks.

Other things rangers can do. Life stealing. A touch ranger is awesome. It is flat out armor ignoring damage. About 2/3 of my VQ's I was either a touch or a sycthe. They are just awesome builds.

Now other things rangers can do. AOE damage. Bring barrage. it kicks ass. Why? Splinter weapon ignores everything. Strait out kick ass damage. It is simply awesome.

So to anyone who ever says rangers are not the best all around general pve class. Tell them to go **** off.

The reason I love them is they are so versatile. Also on a side note. Rangers are awesome runners. I am not the best example. However I can still make light work of droks and a lot of other runs.

So please make your ranger. Also I never have a hard time finding a pug. Even though I might not be what they want in their group, they will never regret taking you.

Also did I mention one of the most kick ass primaries? EXPERTISE!

Pocketmancer · Jul 18, 2009, 05:29 AM // 05:29

I don't mean to be dismissive, considering I have a ranger, too, but they're not as good as you make them out to be.

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